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From: Frank Da Cruz <fdc@panix.com>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: File transfer from Linux to Win XP over USB - basic questions
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:56:24 +0000 (UTC)
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On 2008-09-12, Mark Hobley <markhobley@hotpop.donottypethisbit.com> wrote:
: alexander <awgabis@juno.com> wrote:
:
:> 1) Are there versions of Kermit available (say, like, on the Columbia
:> U. site http://www.columbia.edu/kermit) that support this operation?
:
: You can just install gkermit on the Linux machine, and a kermit capable
: terminal emulator on the Microsoft Windows machine. (I think TeraTerm,
: PuTTY, or Reflections would suit this.)
:
Last time I looked, PuTTY did not include Kermit protocol. Teraterm did but
it was not a very good implementation. I believe Reflections supports
Kermit protocol, but it's very expensive.
There is really no reason to use G-Kermit on Linux instead of C-Kermit.
G-Kermit is a bare-bones minimal Kermit protocol implementation that was
produced to satisfy the demands of license purists. C-Kermit is generally
faster and it does more, and anybody who wants to use it can download it
for free and use it all they want to (they just can't turn around and
sell it to somebody else).
:> 1a) If there is a ver that works under Linux (or one of its
:> manifestations), would it be necessary to recompile it from source on
:> my particular system?
:
: gkermit is available on most Linux boxes. There is not problem here.
:
C-Kermit is available for all Linux boxes, as Mark S said. At the present
moment the best place to get it is here:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckdaily.html
The version you'll find here has a few updates that might be necessary for
certain Linux distributions.
In any case, for best results with file transfer, if you are going to be using
Kermit protocol, you should use real Kermit software on each end of the
connection because it works better and it's supported. The Kermit software
for Windows is Kermit 95:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html
:> 2) What sort of cabling would I need to do this?
:
: You could just use a crossover network cable, if there is no RS232 port
: on the machine.
:
About serial-port cables, see:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cable.html
:> 3) Does anyone know about file format compatibility issues between
:> Linux and Windows?
:
: Files created in Microsoft Windows may have CRLF line ends, whereas on
: Linux based systems, they have just LF line ends.
:
Kermit 95 and C-Kermit can be used together to transfer files between
Linux and Windows (and most any other pair of platforms) without the user
having to be concerned with these issues, or having to worry about the
difference between text and binary files. All necessary conversions are
done automatically.
: There is an ambiguity in the RTF standard, which means that RTF files
: created on Microsoft Windows may not be readable on GNU/Linux based
: systems, even though the files are to the standards stated.
:
:> One would hope that the Kermits on each end would somehow handle this
:> transparently.
:
As far as Kermit is concerned, RTF files are text files. Kermit does not
convert application-specific formats between applications or platforms;
neither does any other file-transfer program that I know of. It can, however,
(and does) convert between text-file record formats and text-file character
encodings (e.g. Windows code pages, ISO 8859, UTF8, etc).
- Frank